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Super heroes and SciFi, are they in the same category or no?
Hello all! So new but old to MOS, just came back from outerspace :) Anyways, perhaps you all can help me settle a dispute with a friend. He says, SuperHeroes and Villians are in a category of their own, and not a part of science fiction. I however, feel that they are apart of it. What do you all think??
Discussion started by Orianna81 , on 07 January 02:17 PM
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What is a super hero? Some think it means total power. It doesn't have to. Super just means above in Latin. That means powers above the capacity of a human being. There is a big rage of super power that does not require something impossible or super natural. In that case as super hero that is just a cut above humanity is surely science fiction.
Friday, 13 January 2012 18:18
Good question. I would have to fit the traditional superheroes and villain story (modern-day story centering around the exploitation of an unique (or near-unique), fascinating extra-human power) into the Sci-Fi genre. I know of some superhero and villain stories I would put in the Horror genre (Dean Koontz, for example), and I'd like to see one fit into the Fantasy genre.
Wednesday, 11 January 2012 13:06
Oh yes, I forgot to mention, Orson Scott Card calls it all Speculative Fiction. I like that better because it makes me sound imaginative and conventional fiction merely mundane. We should go with that.
Sunday, 08 January 2012 12:19
It depends on how you want to write it. Some superheros are magical and part of a pure fantasy. That might be why RogerVenk first put them in their own category. In my experience they are all on the same shelf in the book store, and when they do try to subdivide the shelves too much they usually put some books in the wrong category. We can complicate it more by mentioning futurism without much science or simple ghost stories that don't rise to the level of a fantasy world or these CSI shows with their fictional forensic science that far out preforms reality.
So, what if your Super Hero was a detective who always "knew" who did it by some psychic power and was assisted by a forensic staff that was much more attractive then any real police department and had special tools that could always find clues? Fantasy or Science Fiction or Cop Show?
So, what if your Super Hero was a detective who always "knew" who did it by some psychic power and was assisted by a forensic staff that was much more attractive then any real police department and had special tools that could always find clues? Fantasy or Science Fiction or Cop Show?
Sunday, 08 January 2012 12:12
No worries Steve V. But yes, was looking for a bit more then a yes or no. I think perhaps I should have explained that a bit more. Haven't posted many things on here or anywhere. Still getting the hang of it.
So if I am understanding, we could say all is fantasy, with science fiction a sub-cat and superheroes a sub of science fiction. right?
So if I am understanding, we could say all is fantasy, with science fiction a sub-cat and superheroes a sub of science fiction. right?
Sunday, 08 January 2012 11:58
So you could deduce Superheroes being a sub category of science fiction, which is a sub category of fantasy, yes?
Sunday, 08 January 2012 11:45
Sorry, Orianna81, I thought you were looking for an either-or answer. Science fiction is more of a sub-category of fantasy as much as hard-science fanatics might object. Super Man had a "scientific" origin on Kryton. Sounds like science fiction to me.
Sunday, 08 January 2012 11:21
I think, and don't quote me Superheroes and all encompassing their worlds come under their own 'Superheroe' genre, be it their worlds are fictional and in many cases heaviy influenced by science.
Sunday, 08 January 2012 11:03